From this thread it is not true that the 4 flash fault is fatal. There is also a White or clear silicone rubber gasket that is entangled with pins and solenoid wires. Since I dont have a location near me and have a demanding household for hot water, I opted for the $30 overnight shipping option. If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. Just lit the pilot again and set the temperature!! Note the code flashes from the LED which indicates the pilot is lit. The pilot would lite, the main burner would come on and it would run for awhile. combustion chamber. I am calling the plumber who installed it. Count the number of flashes and look it up in the manual. I am extremely grateful for this information! Thanks for the site.. Guys, this is a great post Thanks I FIXED IT but, make it EASY FOR DUMMIES after spending hours reading this I FOUND the EASIEST WAY to fix the 4 blink issue Just lit the pilot take out the plastic cover with the pilot on, do not disconnect any cords, use aflat-bladed screwdriver. just short (touch) the top 2 left pins( there is a set of 4 pins together use the 2 on the left) and the led light will go off and the pilot will shut off too, put the plastic cover back to the unit and DONE!! Turn the knob to 9 or 10 oclock- since your controller is faulted, nothing should happen. When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. Last year I had the blinks. We really need to tell the government to BUTT OUT of our lives, Big Brother wants to be my mommy and save me from myself. NEVER AGAIN! I tried the simple unplug and reset for 10 minutes and plug back in it worked awesome. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. They could not find that in their records. With the new unit, since it goes into the water tank itself, do you need to drain all the water from the tank before replacing it? > Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to [reset the error condition]? Well my tank is 15 months old and it is giving the 4 flash death sign, called everywhere for parts, can only get from Whirlpool and 3 days later. The results are nearly identical except that when I hooked up the external wires and the three wire plug on the circuit board and reassembled with the pilot on, the codes were different. I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. I do not think you have the same honeywell control that this website is discussing, there is no power switch or power cord. Connect the RED and WHITE power wires back on the two connections on the circuit board. Takes one screw driver to unscrew the one screw on the bottom of the controller. Also had flushed out the tank. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. I will miss 7 -10 years of worry free (White on the right and RED on the left as they would be with the cover on). Slide the power switch off. Lady on phone said they werent aware of any problems but our heater still under warranty and would send us a new valve. He gave me the $30 overnight speech but I opted for the $10 and some change shippingGot it 2 days later! Going to try the reset steps pointed out earlier and see if that will get me by for a little while until the new one gets here. Only the technically adept or handy should do attempt this. Regarding these Honeywell 9007884 Reliance 300 Series gas valves, the manual states that the HOT setting is 120F and the VAC (vacation) setting is 55F, but what temperature setpoint is the LOW setting? Anyway, I bought that same heater (2 insulation) only a couple years ago. WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 $42999 FREE delivery Feb 14 - 17 Or fastest delivery Feb 13 - 15 Small Business Honeywell 100262939 Electronic Valve Ng, 2" 21 $19292 FREE delivery Feb 13 - 15 More Buying Choices $184.52 (13 new offers) Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. One other thing I could mention and that is there is likely more to this story than what is apparent. After a minute or so the flashes should change to just one flash every three seconds or so. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. Now, instead of the 4-blink I had a seven blink. I did that search but you Can Not find just the circuit board. I also drained a small amount of sediment from the bottom of the tank, which was mostly brown water. For sales or technical inquiries about our products please select the type of item (s) you are interested in from the pull down category list shown below. Voltage Maximum: 850 mV dc, open circuit. THIS METHOD WORKS!!! I suspect it is modified by Honeywell to be less sensitive to the issue because of complaints. I replace the whole unit and can not get the pilot to re-light. God Bless you! I had worked on a water heater that was in a flooded basement and had to open up the sealed combustion chamber, remove the burner/pilot/ignitor/thermopile assembly and dry out the ignitor with a hair dryer for about 15 minutes before it was capable of showing a spark again. WV8840B1109 has been discontinued Discontinued January 3, 2020 This product was discontinued by the manufacturer. A plumber I know told me he has replaced dozens of these exact same units. Put it all back together and re-sealed the gasket with red (high temperature) RTV gasket sealer. I suspect it to be calcium and salts. Mine is 3 1/2 years old. Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. This one honeywell water heater thermostat is completely a lemon.. OK just replace with newer updated green computer board without the sensor.. New ones dont have Sensor clip or wire. Im assuming that the old board just completely died. This WORKS! Those two must also be connected which ever method is selected to correct the problem. Light the pilot as before. That was their only solution. When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. Wow, you are the man, I used old speaker wires, a doubleAand masking tape, I dont have any clips, followed your instructionsabout five times, nothinghappening,at one point I did touch the left pin with the positive and heard a click, after that thenext three tries it all worked like you said. honeywell wv8840b1109 manual honeywell wv8840b1109 manual Pmi reliance supply electric power partcrib please. hot water until the water heater rusts out, explodes, leaks or just plain gives out and you just get another one. They have a manual shut off. 1. I then turned the gas valve to hot and it lit and ran. After I reconnected got 7 flashes instead of 4 flashes and the gas valve opened properly. 5 gas rated pipe sealant. I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. You can open up both the old and replacement valve, and just swap the fronts of the valves, containing the recalcitrant circuit board, leaving the back part that connects to the gas pipes in place. And two finger-pressable connectors at the top. Gently wiggle out the housing. Hot water is a good thing!! you will get a 7 flash error. I am not sure if holding the temperature button in is electronic or mechanically acts on the pilot valve (would hope the latter). But they knew nothing about that. My control has an additional wire plugged into the bottom of the controller (Im not certain what it does). Hi I have a Honeywell gas valve and the pilot button popped off. Do this at work sometimes before shipping a job we tested with a charged capacitor. After turning the heater off and shutting off the gas to the unit. I will be calling the Whirlpool number to see if I can get a replacement valve unit before this one goes out for good! There should be labels red and white on the gas valve to help you plug them back the right way. Remove the ivory-colored plastic front of the gas valve from the back of the unit. I woke up on a Saturday morning to this issue and used your Fault Clear instructions and they WORKED! Taking your screwdriver and hold it against the upper right pin and the lower pin for about 3 seconds. Resetting the #$%@!! This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. the side you see when it the board is in place. I have the same set up as rdarnitall on 31 December 2014 at 7:28 pm and I just wanted to say thanks for that reset procedure, it worked for me. I did the trick with a AA battery and some cheap speaker wire. I have advised my friends to call and tell them they have four flashes and get the gas valve now whether or not it has died. Wife called whirlpool Monday. Plan the installation as outlined below The older controllers will reset this way. when I drained it I observed no sediment ! I followed your instructions to clear the fault and they worked fine. I reset the temp to my standard setting and it heated up fine. It refused to even start. COPY OF Honeywell Water Heater Gas Valve Instruction/ Spec. Next day shipping for 10 bucks? New valve on the way from Whirlpool. I am so happy that the company replaced it for you. I, too, experienced the dreaded 4-flash-of-death failure after about 8 months of use, was given the replacement valve, did the complete flush of the tank only to discover no sediment issues and, as with most of the rest of you, received a valve with a different color indicator light. I cant believe they sent me a dud. It has a stainless steel protective cover. Im just saying that you dont have to install the whole valve, but can just swap out the parts you need to make the old one work again. would encourage you to waste the money on a new part. This unit is a P.O.S.! and submit my receipt for them to reimburse the cost (up to $153). * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water 2000 coachman catalina water heater rv forum, The lp switch water heater 2000 coachmen [], [] Th106 honeywell aube th106 7 day programmable line, Comments 7 day programmable line volt thermostat electric heating: bought level house. I did the upper left/upper right. BTW To those who are confused about the poststhey are not on the circuit board or between the board & cover. Thanks again. I had looked at it at 5am it was 7pm by the time I got to Lowes, thought he was wrong but trusted his input! ENJOY, BIG BIG thanks to you, it worked i fixed it. Also, is the setpoint continuously variable as the dial is turned, or are the labeled settings stepped and all there are? It only puts out about 0.5 volts, but it is enough energy to operate everything. It should not be necessary to completely empty the tank unless it is just full of sediment and you have never tried to flush it out before. doctor dead, steampunk adventure set 1904 san francisco, . The light went out. Flushing the tank regularly prevents many problems. Drain a few gallons, a little scale. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. After just a couple of minutes the code changed to 1 and now I have hot water. So now it is connected up as it would be normally but without the cover attached. Maybe I can purchase one with the G-D F@*CK*! Tried the reset a bunch of times but could not get it to stop the 4 flashes. I had a similar experience on a WV8840B1059 getting the 4 flashes. Then once it started running went to one blink. This is how you can un-fault the Controller or make it check for a fault again (and clear the fault). Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. Even though it did not appear excessively dirty or clogged there was some soot present on top of the screen and a small amount of dust under the burner (& one dead ladybug). If the reset procedure needs to be repeated, I figure it can easily be done in less than 10 minutes. My unit was only 3 years old! 4:Follow directions to lite the pilot-light. I turn the switch to off. Wish me luck tomorrow! I lit the pilot, and the indicator returned to 1 regular blink (the sign of normal function) as the gas flowed to the burner and ignited. The pilot stays lit. I replaced the Assy Unit thermocouple with the pilot lightNOW it flashes 7 times with 3 second pause. I think the Board discharged and thus reset the memory allowing it to operate again. Resetting the #$%@!! My model doesnt have a pilot that is lit and stays on all of the time, but rather an electronic ignitor. Anyways DBs method DOES WORK! Got 7 blinking lights burner came on and back to 1 blinking light. Remove, Element, Stubborn. An extremely tense situation with 2 women in the house, Monday morning (Wife and daughter) and no hot water was avoided by the above fix. This may help all. My light is now white instead of red and the electronic board appears slightly different. Im not certain it works in all cases, but if it does, youre all set to go. I suggest, like anything else you want to buy online, among those sellers with good reviews, choose the one with the best price. Will keep this for next year when it breaks again. She did say they were including a return label if I would be so kind to return the faulty part so they could examine why these are giving out so quickly. Note that sometimes it can be hard to get the valve closed completely if this was the first time and you had never done it before in years of use. I found the most reliable one is to install the parts without the cover and short the top two pins that go to the pilot light (left) and the main burner (right) and running it for a while. Bam! . An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. Have fun boys! thank u CT. U and DB are $$ saversfor now anyway..LOL! Last December, I was forced to replace the valve after I got the four flashes. Voltage Minimum: 350 mV dc, open circuit. Shut off the pilot, remove the cover and reconnect the three wire connector to the circuit board. Thanks that was a big help and a $$ saver. I re installed it and got the 7 flashes instead of the four flashes. Next, there are at least two variations of this unit. No, they want to sell you the whole valve, of course. How can this have been going on for years and not have been fixed? Their knowledge and expertise has a value. A good business would be to offer a replacement board that has been restored for use to customers blessed with this hunk of junk! Turn the temp knob down to VAC (lowest setting for vacation) Four flashes only happens if the water overheated different problem. Checked the wiring. You may notice little beads of clear gooey looking stuff that appears to be gelatin. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water [], Young Rey wants to return the amulet to the Blue Wizard, but she's not easy to find! I opened the cover again, left everything plugged in, took a piece of speaker wire with the plastic off of the ends, and held the wire ends to the top left pin and the top right pin for a few seconds. and see what the thermostat looks like). Other Issues That Cause Pilot Light Outages When I relit the heater, it started up just fine and went into the normal 1-flash mode and still is, a day later. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. Going to talk to Whirlpool and have them ship out the replacement. . Unfortunately, Charles, your fix did not work for me. I have gone through several failures with this type of water heater (with the Hon. Light the pilot light as normal. The pilot would stay lit for a while and then go out with a code 2 blink. Push for 5 seconds then light fixed mine. I reset it and it worked again for a few days. Honeywell Water Heater WV8840B1109 0 Solutions WATER HEATER MANUAL Honeywell Water Heater Wv8840b5068 0 Solutions pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove Honeywell Water Heater Gas Water Heater 1 Solutions Not working. New controller on the way but hot water is now flowing. Test all joints after install for leaks! CS8840 pilot assemblies are designed for use with this control. After spending a day shopping for a replacement nowhere to be found for same day repair, and after 2 freezing cold morning showers, I followed DBs instructions and voila! 5. So I changed that out for a 1/4 turn one, much easier. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946581980/ Ill call for the replacement to have on hand and keep the instructions. The first time they sent us a new valve for free and my husband installed it. Light the pilot. inlet and. On all of the occasions that this happened I was able to reignite the pilot and get the heater going again simply by turning the valve controller to off, waiting ten to fifteen minutes, and then re-lighting the pilot following normal instructions. The light started the all is good single blink and the furnace fired up. That is the valve mechanism. First, get a new valve. In case you havent seen one before, its called a flat-bladed screwdriver.. While I didnt have any leaks, I was sweating bullets during the testing and first fire up of the furnace. One small jumper wire is all thats needed! I got my first shower in after 2 days. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! This worked for me, and saved me some money and headaches. Thank you Tyler and all the great contributors on this thread. The Controller should now work normally for a few days to months before it may fault again. I was told that you can use the yellow teflon and sealant for gas and water, but the water products do not work on gas. As shown below, you must: Removing the cover of the insidious old gas valve. Make a jumper out of phone wire about 10 long. I am getting NO Flash from the led light. We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! Thank you David Boone for your excellent instructions in your, How to un-fault a controller post. Thanks for taking the time to post this. It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. But the whole process raises a couple of questions in m y mind. Good to know! Apparently the WV8840 valves designations are followed by a revision letter. worked for me. Ive been reading through all this information, but other than learning the honeywell unit is a POS, I havent figured out my problem. We have a Whirlpool from Lowes. In fact, not only have they not fixed the problem, some instructions I found online lead me to believe that they deliberately introduced this feature after the original design. Honeywell Wv8840B1158 Manual. Lessons learned eh? Right after I was done and moved on to light the pilot, the damn thing started flashing 7 times, which means gas control valve failure, right out of the box !!!! I replaced it in a couple of hours and we were back in business. 40 gal, nat gas, no external attachments. I had the first valve replaced under the one year warranty but sears will not replace the valve under the six year warranty. I didnt use a battery and just jumped upper left and upper right pegs. After reading most of this string I found a small piece of wire between the pilot light pin and main valve pin after pilot light was on did clear the code after relighting the pilot again to flashing 7 which normalized to one flash shortly after. If it reads less than 12 volts, you may need to replace your gas valve or controller. Thank you so much Tyler for this website & Dan for the awesome reset solution & others who contributed their variations of that! upstairs. About to enter the fray and attempt the 4-blink DIY fix solution. Said any time they shipped something it would be 10, 20, or 30 dollar charge. It is a V pattern. This option is great because it saves you a lot of plumbing and headaches replacing the old valve. The wt8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. You need to drain the tank completely because the valve sensor is about one inch diameter probe that screws into the side of the tank from the back of the valve. My Kenmore water heater is controlled by the Honeywell Gas Valve (part # 9007884), which contains the WV8840 Communication Port. If one uses a slow supply of hot water (like rinsing a lot of dishes), then the heater stays on making VERY hot water until it triggers a non-resetable error. Last year the Pilot light kept going out by itself. No brown or other weird looking water. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! The first time I paid Sears their blood money. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! My plan was to fix it Saturday and replace the entire unit with the new one. Should save this to a word fileBut hopefully I wont ever need them again..My water heater is 2 years old and has a 6 year warranty on parts..I called Monday morning and spoke to a Johnathon (real nice fella) and he shipped me the whole thermostat assembly. worked for me. 8: Once the status is blinking, set the temperature to desired level. About 5-10 minutes the 7 flashes reverted back to a single flash, maybe got lucky. Got a back-up valve for free since mine was under warranty. 5.0 out of 5 stars. Select a Model: Gas Control Trade Replacement Valve. $211.94. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14129889951/ But- I havent tried it so go with this method. I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. My new controller has a white blinking LED that will not reset. I did the jumper wire and at least heated enough water for my wife and I to shower .what to replace it with ??? not understanding this. One big question. Be gentle; its only plastic. The Whirlpool helpline says I have to replace the gas valve. This worked for me! WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WT8840B1500 WV8840B1059 WV8840B1117 WV8840B1118. A few days ago I noticed that the combustion was very loud, like the flame was pulsating or something (I didnt know I had a pulsejet at home). Thanks a bunch! ~ diy-home-projects.vwx.info. Ive been reading the above posts with great interest. Search the page for How to un-fault a controller. I have to say that thhis is amazing. ! coming from me! Maybe the situation was wrong, maybe I just didnt hold my tongue the right way. Apparently cutting the power and going through the high-low setting twice is a reset procedure. [] research briefly mention entertaining ? After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. Thanks for the info. Just one stinking notch! Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . The wires for the main burner valve solenoid had not broken. limit (Temperature Cut-Out [TCO]) function. I said BS, send me a new module. I let the water sit until the water in it is no longer hotthe last shower usually takes care of that. Thank you sooomuch and my daughter thanks you, hot water is a must for her. Appreciate the guidance. We have a drought in CA and losing 100 gallons (2 TANKS) of water every six months isnt backbreaking, but it sure is a pain that should not be in the design. Called phone number on the tank and they overnighted a new valve. Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. 4. I pay $30 for overnight shipping for a replacement unit. Even though there are 4 higher settings! Basically the Honeywell Electronic Gas Water Heater Controllers are crap (so far). On the board? Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? But I just wanted to confirm is there no way to reset the 4 blink code for a newer, white light, unit? But they knew nothing about that. Wish you had shown a pic of the screwdriver touching the 2 posts. It was enough hot for a fairly comfortable shower actually. Basically, the minerals heat less efficiently than the water, so the water has to get hotter than necessary. I found instructions for how to reset the status light by turning the dial to off for five minutes, but that no longer works. I completely drained the tank and had a little sediment, not much since I have a whole house filter on the incoming supply. There is no need to completely remove the board from the plastic control valve cover. My Honeywell WV8860B1309 failed after 2 years. 6. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Honeywell covered the replacement unit cost including shipping. But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! 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