Guys is used by midwesterners to address both sexes. Police did not elaborate as to specifically why police believe the account may be tied to the murders of Abby and Liberty. What saddens me is that when (if) LE does arrest somebody, they'll crow to the skies in a self-congratulatory haze. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. Who knows. In 1962, she starred in episode 11 of TheSaint ("The Man Who Was Lucky") as Cora. That inexorable redneck fuck lumbering towards the camera in his stupid fucking dad jeans..and the casual way he orders them down the hillI just feel for those girls. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. I still keep thinking that it probably was Chadwell. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. A young male student who was in the room asserted he said something to try to save the girls. R339 it's on facebook. Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. There had to have been a sexual component, whether they were sexually assaulted or not. If true, they'd be calling out to him on the bridge. It was one of precious few updates on the Delphi murders since the initial investigation. People have tweeted at her about it and she's only liking comments. That doesnt mean he didnt know their parents or someone close to them someone he may have wanted to pay back. I don't work in I.T. Shirley Stewart, Fulham and Hammersmith Coroner's officer, said: "There will I thought the killer was from their small town, and, for some reason, the locals were shielding him. And the tattoo predates the murders, but it makes me think he'd stalked Libby. R223: Ive yet to determine an official source reporting screaming was heard. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. There is speculation that the old Bridge Guy was stalking the girls and trapped them by being behind them on the bridge, while the younger guy approached the girls from the other direction. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. And I think were one piece away one piece.. Danny Rollins. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. An example would be Ted Bundy. Imo, and made one cooperate by threatening to kill her friend if she did not obey him. R143, I dont have HLN. For more than two years. This case got under my skin. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. I hope this guy ROTS. go ahead, tease me, blow me out. I suspect they were gagged. After this look at the latest updates on the Delphi murders, read about six grisly cases that remain unsolved and the chilling story of Myra Hindley and the Moors murders. They also have had subsequent interviews with people who know this father and son team. Just like serial killers of women, they have a "type" . The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. What was the other one? Kegan could definitely be covering up other crimes (he's been arrested for child porn and other related charges so that wouldn't be crazy) but the dates of the backdated FB posts, the wiping of his phone etc. The Libby Abby subreddit has been locked and gone to private. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. Knowing a little bit about that case, because I briefly consulted with one of the investigators shortly after the Golden State Killer case, I know that they have a tough investigation ahead, and they are doing everything they can to try to get that case solved.. [quote] Libertys father fingered two meth dealers. I think he was probably there and/or watching, simply because he thought we were on the wrong path," Carter said when the second sketch was released. I bet those residents are furious and if they knew the name of a local guy, someone would go for him. Chadwell lives near Delphi and looks like the man captured by Libby German on Snapchat: Its also noted that on Chadwells Facebook page, he enjoys hiking and has many photos of other scenic bridges in the area. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. It's crazy. Like they had a name, someone to watch? R183, I agree. be no inquest because there were no suspicious circumstances. Just my opinion, but I think he has no connection to that town. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. This story is creepy as hell. In 1972, it was out of the ordinary in the county still largely rural and small town for a teenager like Delphi, a popular 16-year-old high school junior, to be the victim of a homicide. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. He had been planning to take them somewhere to abuse sexually and torture over a day or more. [quote] This guy had a gun and a knife(s), [quote]Just based on what I think is true-. Sometimes you may find a user who owes but that's not often and it would be small amounts. If the sheriff is indeed innocent, this documentary didnt do him any favors. That is a great point about calling 911. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. R207 Thats my thought. Stands to reason. my leg is just not letting me heal on this crime. and I'm leaving the joking behind. Sadistic beyond words. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. Years ago I saw this brutal movie called Short Eyes, about what happens in jail to a guy who raped and killed a young girl. Delphi Lawrence died at the age of 70 years. (There is a debate about whether it was Abby or Libby who was pregnant. Thanks for clarifying, r301 - Obviously there's a lot of speculation and wild theories about this crime. Does the suspect have internet access? I suspect he was there on a few occasions looking for the right moment and a victim. To install click the Add extension button. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? Really can't get around finding the child on the actual premises, injured and chained up in the basement. My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. Lawrence's death was not being treated as suspicious. He was sending me full essays about hebephilia until I blocked him. But Leigh Kerr may also be a frustrated insider/outsider LE. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. The FB mods made screen grabs because they thought the guy was shady and they are sending those to investigators. This tattoo. Authorities say Nations is not on their radar at this time. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. In January 2021, the creators of a smartphone app called CrimeDoor provided a unique and eerie look at the fateful day Abby and Libby encountered their killer in Delphi, Indiana. I'm sorry, a family member thinking someone is not the perp is only as good as having a good idea who IS. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. He sat there and waited for his target victim to enter the path when it was empty. The voice is that of a man at least 50 yrs old. Going back years and years? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Their hard drives would have records of communication and shouldn't that give LE some lead as to the ISP? I dont think its this guy. He did not elaborate on any details about the investigation into Chadwell. He will kill again, probably in another state. What purpose would that serve if not to intentionally apply psychological pressure, via the destruction of his fantasy, which might lead to a slip-up? I really hope so. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. First, the family began to search. However, if there's a whole ring behind this anthony_shots profile, maybe that's what they're trying to get him to expose. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). Desperate. Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. Press J to jump to the feed. Abby responds, "Hmmm." She also played Mrs Johnson, the leading role in Willy Russell's Blood Brothers, for four years at London's Phoenix Theatre. Both girls had open caskets but had to wear scarves. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? Holy crap, now that I see the suspect, I can see how someone could have come up with both sketches. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. We were told that the guy probably looks younger than he is. They don't have a clue who the real killer is. A copy of Lawrence's death certificate showed the cause of death was "alcoholic liver disease". The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. We can only guess. ^. It may help to prevent action against false leads/confessions and may help to build the case as it would be very suspicious for an innocent person not connected to the crime to know those details. It sways back and forth and its not something you can just jump on and walk straight across if youve never done it before. click ACCEPT. I just read the link in R288 and hes a Trump supporter lol. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. The entire incident was recorded on Libby's phone. Paul Holes, the retired homicide and cold case investigator who helped bring about an arrest in the Golden State Killer case, has also spoken extensively on the issue, offering his own theories for why police have been stingy with information, including the Delphi murders autopsy report. Somebody out there knows who this person is. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. Whoever the SOB he follows the threads closely, and more than likely gets a sick thrill from posting as well . This guy has been under investigation for about a week nowis he the guy? Those reddit links are all over the place. I think the most simple answer is it wouldn't help the public identify the perpetrator, LE wouldn't gain anything with it, but it could hurt the case. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. R68- Yes. [quote]It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims. At that same April 22 press conference, Indiana State Police also released never-before-seen video of bridge guy that was taken by Libby on the day that she died. R480 DNA would easily tell who the father of that baby was. Did she remind him of someone or maybe he had a connection to that girl. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. Some people think it could be the same guy who killed Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. Web15 votes, 84 comments. Libby and Abby's bodies were found on Valentine's Day. I'm wondering if they were lead there to meet a guy they'd been in contact with online, but all did not go as planned. But, it still doesn't feel like he's the killer. Back up your claims please. Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." She may have been in costume and said down the hill. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. R29 Sorry, I wasn't getting at that part. Who knows if thats true. It was almost like it was a family member who did this.. Very sorry. This is an app that is going to help so many people and change the perspective of crime, and hopefully solve cases and get arrests for many unsolved cases.. They were scared young girls doing what they were being ordered to. Discover today's celebrity birthdays and explore famous people who share your birthday. Her only child. he's clearly a fucked up guy and needs to be convicted of crimes against the girl they found. I think you could be right about that being all they have UNLESS everything else is too disturbing (him talking but you can also hear the girls pleading or whatever). She was stabbed in a neck artery and her heart. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. I wish I wouldn't have watched the video she recorded before bed. R503 Definitely. R24 I would've thought the same but I read a case last year about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, I can't remember the full details and I wish I had bookmarked the info, the guy was either in the police or had connections to the police. train, but he is clearly guilty of another crime and i really hope they have some forensic evidence to tie him to the girls murders. I couldn't read the replies to that post so maybe s/he did in later posts. YouTubeAbby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. The audio isn't clear. Klein, who is currently in police custody, was charged in August 2020 with 30 felonies, including child exploitation, possession of child pornography, obstruction of justice, and synthetic identity deception. The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her R251 I think it sounds like they have a suspect whose wife is providing his alibi. Left thigh. (this is only my opinion and many disagree). The context surrounding the images, which were stills from a moving video, has never been given. Places just like the Delphi hike. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. R225 Consider where they grew up. Horrifying. Im thinking he worked for it or drive a truck which made pick ups or drops off for it. And frankly, maybe he doesn't know since many anonymous pedophiles use it. This case has really bothered me that someone got away with doing this. In Part II, the sheriff stated he had been reported as a suspect at least 3 times and had been questioned. But that is the way he leaves them, I think. She is not dating anyone. As her family grew frustrated with the lack of developments in the case, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. You cannot know if your truthful answers can link you to a crime without an attorney doing their job for you - they will find out exactly what the government wants to ask, give the attorney copies of any prior interviews or statements you made, perhaps provide videos of you, discuss with the attorney exactly what they are looking for or expect you to know or say and with that information the attorney will discuss your answers with you beforehand. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). Delphi Lawrences search trend from the last 12 months (The below graph report is directly fetched from the Google Trends): We strive for accuracy and fairness. r288 that's chilling. the Arts Educational School in Hertfordshire, her West End debut came at the age of 16 in the play Forget Me Not Lane. I didnt follow it until now. This makes sense. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. It is also not known if the killer left the phone there or not. The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. As far as I've heard. Libby Germans older sister, Kelsi, praised the app. By the end of the 1960s her roles began to decrease in frequency and importance and in 1973 she retired. No way. This tragedy brought out so many scummy true crime fame whores. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Heres the pedos mug shot next to the mystery photo the girls took the day they were murdered. If someone murdered my kid, I would be desperate too. But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. Real drug dealers don't go around killing children and staging crime scenes. If it was neck injuries then it's likely knife or wire, or both. It was news. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. Short legs, but not abnormally short. For five years, no suspects had been named in the murder case of Libby German and Abby Williams, two best friends who were murdered while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. They do say it..a couple of them summarize it. 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