.44 Cal 75-RGSSH44LC $475.00 Qty: [13], Remington Army and Navy Revolvers 1861-1888, "Lot 44094 The Most Important William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody Gun Extant. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. They fit just about any cap and ball firearm. It has the same perfect weight, balance, and feel of the steel Sheriff, but it's immediately obvious that they double-down on the workmanship. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. In the Remington Revolver, the cap is struck by the hammer, AFTER it passes through the slot in the Recoil Shield! 10s will probably be best. I have a LeMat replica, fine in every way except the rammer being a piss poor design, and the two-mode hammer not working well in shotgun position. Remington made a cartridge conversion in .46 rimfire, after they ponied up the royalty fee to Smith & Wesson and their fancy-pants bored-through revolver cylinders for metallic cartridges. Youre only hunting if you sharpen a stick and use it as a spear. I respect your opinion, but roll my eyes when you try to state that as a matter of fact when its an opinion. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. Add to Cart. Due to the fire, the Colt 1860 Army was not available for some time. This is exacerbated by the minimal cut-out in the rear right shield of the frame, which has been done to allow you to get your fingers in to do the job. I had one of the Pietta 1858 Remingtons and while I enjoyed shooting it and learning about the history and evolution of firearms, the cleaning requirements are intense. Cimarron 1858 Remington Navy Percussion Revolver .36 Caliber 7.5" Barrel Blue Steel Brass 2-Piece Walnut Grip Standard Blue Finish. if you wish you can contact your local ATF to find your answer. The Remington revolver owes its durability to the "topstrap", solid-frame design. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). Check out our forum: I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. The Cleanest Clean Its Ever Been! I wipe off the parts of the frame with a water dampened rag, to get fouling off the frame, hammer, and the slot in the recoil shield whre the hammer goes through to strike the cap, then use a lightly oiled rag to go over the same places! Youre reloaded. Fine. And man, do we have a lot of Bambis kin running loose here. I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. My personal recipe for 1858 fun is 25 grains of holy black with a .454 diameter round lead ball seated firmly atop it. Not that theres anything wrong with that. Pietta is the largest seller of target models that have a rear adjustable sight, and should be easier to find on the used market. Pietta Remington 1858 Army Target Stainless 8 Barrel Black Powder Revolver 44cal cat00100 540.00 Out of stock Pietta Remington 1858 New Model Army Stainless 6 1/2 Barrel Black Powder Revolver 36cal cat00101 465.00 In stock View Product Pietta Remington 1858 New Model Army Stainless 8 Barrel Black Powder Revolver 44cal cat00102 465.00 In stock 1858 Remington Army Sheriff Pietta Black Powder Pistol 5 ( 4 reviews) Your Price: $373.99 In Stock - Ships Today! This muzzeloader is a high-quality, working reproduction piece with incredible detail and laser-engraved polished steel frame , Pietta Colt 1851 good solid used condition .44 with 12" barrel, With lovely scroll work engraving on the action, cylinder and barrel, this Pre-Owned Pietta Remington 1858 New Army is in good condition and something different to the run of the mill models. If you are unable to make it to our premises . Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. It was Assistant District Attorney Ben Stone that shot LaHood. Thank God I did not shoot my dog that had to have 62 stitches. On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. By the way; it is a pretty decent movie in the class with Quiggley Down Under.almost. I boil all my cylinders in a saucepan, and pour boiling water through the barrels of the guns. I got this one because I loved the blued steel Sheriff model so much. The stainless steel shows a smooth and tool mark free finish, while the grip is a nice piece of darkly stained walnut and smooth to the touch. Mmmmmmlightly-grilled, corn-fed Bambis mother backstrap.mmmmmmm. You should have. With practice, loaded cylinders can be change as fast as the average shooter can change a magazine in a modern handgun. 1858 Remington Holster HardcoreLeather (293) $75.00 FREE shipping More colors Holster prestige handmade for revolver / Remington 1858 Sheriff New Army / French cowhide with vegetable tanning HyperionEuropa (14) $116.47 Remington 1858, 3D Printed. They are commonly, though inaccurately, referred to as the Model 1858 due to the patent markings on its New Model barrels, "PATENTED SEPT. 14, 1858/E. No feeder, but a scoped .243 at 75 yards (distance to the tree line) no one calls it hunting. Subtle but noticeable differences in hammers, loading levers, and cylinders help identify each model. The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. Features & Highlights Precisely Machined Cylinders Revolver cylinders are machined for clean, precise nipple recesses and cylinder notches. Everything you ever wanted to know about the 1858 Remington (and some things you didnt!). Uberti's 1858 NMA Inox 5 " strikes a good compromise on practicality and performance in what is a primitive and uncertain system. We raise cattle, same thing. Get an UpLula magazine loader. re-grease, assemble, and go shoot for another year! Do put grease in each chamber after loading. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Selleck wields a S&W Scholfield and a 1860 (I think) Colt open frame Army. I like that yall are diversifying the content a little bit. It saw use in the American West, both in its original percussion configuration and as a metallic cartridge conversion, as well as around the world. Yesterday i shot my 1858 Remington 44 cap and ball that was my great grandfathers service revolver that he carried in the Civil War.He fought in Bull run the second Manassas battle and them on to Gettysburg His name was Thomas H Bourke. Uberti Model 1858 - Stainless - .44 Cal $ 389.00 For sale is a Uberti Model 1858 New stainless black powder revolver in .44 Cal black powder. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. My days of reloading by the thousands are past, so a pair of these are a real find at less then $300 bucks. In this case the rear sight is a simple, fixed V-notch cut into the rear of the top strap. percussion caps are NOT standard size. In my opinion, I don t think its enough. Uberti 1860 Army Black Powder Revolver 44 Caliber 8" Barrel Steel Frame Brass Trigger Guard Blue. This may provoke howls of outrage, but whitetails with a scoped .243 or .308 is not hunting. Further, any muzzle loading rifle, shotgun, or pistol which is designed to use black powder or black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition, is an antique firearm unless it (1) incorporates a firearm frame or receiver; (2) is a firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or (3) is a muzzle loading weapon which can be readily Easily removable, replaceable cylinders make reloading extremely fast. Ive made it a long way by doing what CSMs tell me to do, so I shoot it at least once a month. And thats part of the beauty of cap-and-ball revolvers; you can vary the powder charge any time you wantlight loads for plinking, and heavy loads for whatever. The 1861 Remington actually transitioned into New Model appearance by late 1862, slowly transforming throughout 1862, due to continual improvement suggestions from the U. S. Ordnance Department. . Pretty simple. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. I havent shot black powder in a long time. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. A standard 1858s barrel measures eight inches. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. The Remington on the other hand, was very WELL DESIGNED, and was considered to be one of the strongest Percussion Revolvers ever made, It also had a very superior Sighting System, with the rear sight a notch in the frame, and a post or blade foresight at the end of the barrell,, at the tip! With the shorter 5 barrel I have found between 10 and15-grains is more sensible and economic, as with a maximum charge a lot of the powder is wasted in flash and flame effect. I know! The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. 1858 New Army Target Carbine Specifications and prices are subject to change without notice. The trigger guard is 325 US$390/369 Pietta .36 Colt 1851 Navy US Marshall Cylinder Loading Pistol (Black Powder) (R/H) - S/H (2) S/H Surrey Trade Seller Another innovative feature (first appearing in the 1863 Model production series) was "safety slots" milled between chambers on the cylinder. Tsk tsk. Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. Shotgun. I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. You know youve got a good, airtight seal in the chamber when the mouth of the cylinder shaves a small lead ring off the edge as you seat the ball. I HAVE A 1858 44CAL. A Nice Example, I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). Megoszts on: facebook. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). 21478. These guns became the veterans of the Civil War. After that, the law is quite simple, though apparently foolish. A recruit, playing (Hopefullly with an UN-Loaded revolver!) Braided Stainless Steel Hose, Use With Pulsefire Handheld Torch. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it. . At the front is a blade, set in a dovetail block so you can adjust for windage by drifting it left or right. Rszletek Megoszts. Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. Thanks in advance. Removable blued steel 6 shot cylinder. He has a bee in his bonnet, that he is the ONLY person in the world who knows how to correctly clean black Powder revolvers. On that point its best to use an over-powder wad, which will act like a secondary barrier against a flash over. It isnt the first C&B Revolver Ive bought, but the first one belongs to my son and he has it. Ste., 1-D, Santa Ana, CA 92705, 800-430-1310 949-261-6611 949-756-0133 FAX. A pietta .36 target sighted Remington 1858 was a beautiful pistol but I could not get it to shoot accurately. ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. Im one of those people, yeah. I have tested cheaper makes and found in some case that the cylinder shows a tight spot where it will rotate easily for four or five operations then tighten up on the fifth or sixth. The single-action Pietta Model 1858 New Army Brass-Frame Sheriff .44-Cal. . (They are still remarkably cheap in both .25 and 32-20, but good luck if you lose the magazine.) Nope. I have an Italian-made 1858 replica with an R&D conversion cylinder. Can anyone tell me a good load to start? Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. 44 Cal. Click on the radio button next to the bundle that you are interested in and then click on the "Add to Cart" button above to add the bundled products to the shopping cart. If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. Back to top Uberti Reproduction Remington 1858 New Army Stainless Steel .44 Black Powder Revolver 4.7 (26) Buyer's Club $422.99 Non-Member $469.99 Add to Cart Big Savings. 1858 Remington Brass Sheriff .44 5 1/2" CW, 1858 Remington Brass Army Target Model .44 8", 1858 Remington Stainless Steel Army .44 8", 1858 Remington (CH) Steel Sheriff .44 5 1/2". Our 1858 STAINLESS STEEL FRAME BUFFALO revolvers were obtained by special order to Old South Firearms in limited quantities so don't delay in placing your order and don't forget to check out our Buffalo holster by Triple K, . Add to Cart. Even with the reduced cost, the Army, by the end of March 1862, had taken delivery from the Remington factory of only 7,250 .36-cal. William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody used an ivory-handled New Model Army .44, serial number 73,293, from 1863 until 1906, when he gave it to his ranch foreman with a handwritten note which said that, "It never failed me. The end result being a well timed mechanism that offers a consistent and reasonably easy cocking stroke and operation. Categories. Sorry for misleading anyone. The book calls for using 3Fg, on the can it will read as FFFg. Thank God I had my Reminton. 1858 Remington Dlx Texas Nickel Engraved .44 8' Ultra Ivory Grip, .44 Caliber Nickel Engraved 8" Barrel Ultra Ivory Grips Brass Frame. (If, after i SHIPPING & RETURNS. It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. For use in steel frame revolvers only. A Fine Example. twitter. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. This blued conversion cylinder converts steel frame Uberti 1858 remington revolvers from .44 black powder to .45LC/.45Schofield smokeless ammunition. It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. I often find them employed at LGS and they are a good resource. 1858 Remington Brass Nickel Engraved $531.79. I have developed a load for this gun, I call, The Medical Examiners Special! I call it thus, because I am convinced that anyone who tried to assault me, and who I hit Fair & Square twixt Wind & Water with it, well, the only Doctor who would be able to assist the person thus shot, would be The Medical Examiner! I now buy all of my replicas from one distributor EMF Company. Frame: Forged steel with stainless finish Backstrap: Forged steel with stainless finish Total length: 13.6" Weight: 2 lbs., 11 ozs. Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. While the Colt employs separate screws for the cylinder stop and trigger, those components share the same through-frame screw in the Remington design. Due to the value and delicacy of the original revolvers, they are not recommended for modern shooting purposes. PIETTA AND I SHOOT 30 GRAINS OF PYRODEX FFFG AND IT JUST WILL MOVE MY HAND CAN I GO A LITTLE HIGHER ON MY GRAINS I AM A FIRST TIME SHOOTER OF THE CAP AND BALL REVOLVER THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PAUL. I had to pause writing this so I coMore details, EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. Black powder works best when it is compressed. Water is definitely the very best way to get rid of Black Powder fouling. Slim Fit Leather Jackets is an online store that sells jackets for men and women with free shipping all over the world! Thank you for watching. REcoil is essentially nonexistent. The Remington revolver permitted easy cylinder removal, allowing a quick reload with a spare pre-loaded cylinder; this being an advantage over other revolver designs of the time. Likewise the lever that rotates the cylinder via teeth at the rear was also properly fitted. Wow, TTAG must be monitoring my TV; this review came on here while Im watching The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. 357 Magnum. I had originally meant to post a pic for this thread, but never did, so here it is, a pic of the rear target sight used on the Pietta version of the 1858 Remington. $299.99. I think the quality of the Uberti 1858 Remys is just a tad nicer overall than on the Pietta 1858 Remy's. I've owned both. As I got older and learned about black powder, the Remington pre-cartridge design just intuitively looked stronger. [10] Accompanying the sale of the pistol were personal artifacts of Cody's including seventeen handwritten letters. This is ably illustrated by my old cartridge-firing Uberti 1873 Colt copy in 44-40 WCF. Samuel Remington traveled to Washington in the fall of 1861, offering to sell his revolvers to the government at a cost of $15 eachor $10 less than what Colt was charging the Ordnance Department for its .44-cal. I shoot both of them and they are a hoot. These conversions, of course, being akin to the original Remington cartridge conversions used on the Western frontier of the 1860s and 1870s. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. , center-fire, 1860 Army Model. Using just 5-grains of Red Dot smokeless powder under a 200-grain bullet would let the gun shoot to point of aim at 25 yards without touching the sights at all. The blued steel gets all the attention for Range tests. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. While the patent date of this gun was in 1858, actual production didnt start till after 1861 or so, I think 62. REMINGTON & SONS, ILION, NEW YORK, U.S.A./NEW MODEL. 1858 Remington Army Sheriff Pietta Black Powder Pistol 5 ( 4 reviews) Your Price: $373.99 In Stock - Ships Today! Description: Pietta 1858 Rem Steel Sheriff .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver. This can be of the fixed kind as on this example, or the more target-orientated adjustable unit we are familiar with on modern D/A revolvers, such as the S&W 686 or Colt Python. I now have two 58s one with a conversion (to 45 colt cartridge) cylinder from Midway that works great, and no black powder fouling. Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd.Registration number: 04109672 | Registered Office Address: 185 Fleet Street, London, England, EC4A 2HS. Thanks. 1858 Remington Stainless Steel Cylinder Quick-release for Pietta and Uberti. 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