All was new, and although i managed to maintain the job I could not find a place I could pay for and call home and problems arised and followed me every time i moved. P.S. I then moved back to my hometown and received a lot of support and found another job via my hometown connections. In a nutshell: diagnosed with endometriosis, having difficulty conceiving, relationship of 11 years ultimately ended (not due to lack of love but differences in foundational desires and beliefs), in the process of foresclosure, moved 1200 miles to live with family and get on my feet financially. Read more to see how Saturn affects you as it transits your natal houses. You can see how Jennifers stronger conjunction gave her a stronger sense of duty, and she did make the ultimate sacrifice in March 1993. In 2020, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto will all be in my 4th house, at some point conjoining my Jupiter at 24 Capricorn. Sign up for my free newsletter offering astrology forecasts, tips and tricks! Uranus transits on the IC are amazingly strong - Adrian. On the other side that eclipse happened so close to my natal North Node at 27 of Cancer with the transiting North Node at 26. Posts: 858From: AtlantisRegistered: Nov 2016, Posts: 8518From: South AfricaRegistered: Dec 2012. I think of this now as there have been a number of murderers lately whose defense is that god told them to do it or that the person(s) they killed was spawned by satan. Nice aspects Sextile moon in Taurus, 0 orb Trine Venus in Scorpio 1 orb Tricky aspects Square Mercury and Pluto in Libra, 0 orb Inconjunct Neptune in Sag, Jupiter in Aquarius, making a Yod The sextile with the Moon is the base point of another Yod with Neptune st the apex. I had this transit in 2004 at 19y-old. I started going to another group. My IC is at 19Sag07. Not going to happen at my expense. I've been socialising quite a bit and . And yes very potent. Mars opposite Saturn:This transit calls for caution, diligence, and responsible behavior. Transiting Saturn spends about 2.5 years in each house. My family is a blessing, however I still feel alone. Pluto square sun-what house is your sun. I will look into that for you Helen. I dont think I will ever see positive in this period. The Sun conjunct Saturn transit will be a time of hard lessons and an awareness of the fears that cripple our potential. Hi Mel. Homesickness wasnt really an issue because my college was in the same part of town as my parents house and I would come back on the weekends. I have natally Sun conjunct Saturn and Moon opposite. I imagine it will be an interesting time for both of us. At best, it could mean retirement since Im of that age; maybe a move. I feel depressed that I havent made enough from my life even though I am intelligent, have charisma and skill, and the transformation to change shells, like a hermit crab moving from one size to a larger shell, feels impossible, daunting, scary. I read that for most people this transit means a period of isolation, depression and loneliness. Ive had most hard transits hit me in my 40s ! Again, there is so much fear expressed in some posts. And a few days after, I would have the first direct hit of my Saturn Return. This time will be especially significant the older you are. Is this Scorpio rising down? Homesickness certainly fits. Im hopeful, as Jupiter will be coming through in 2020. New moon in Scorpio on 7 November would orbit to become a full moon in Gemini on 22 November. This is the third time Saturn is transiting my 4th. For so long I desired a loving relationship. Maybe Saturn has got something to say in that too, while hurting my luminaries. Its probably on line somewhere. I feel like I am on many cusps.of reclaiming my treasure from living too small an emotional life, of starting my own private practice as a spiritual director (Saturn in 4th /Capricorn good for starting/building a business) , and perhaps moving to live near my g/f, possibly growing roots in a relationship that welcomes my whole self. Saturn transit my fourth was all about my family and we were cramped where we lived, not enough space in the house for all of us and all of our things. Home / Aspects / Saturn Aspects / Saturn Conjunct Midheaven. As Saturn starts climbing your chart, you start a figurative climb in life. Another person may not have a home to go to. the girls had a longstanding agreement that if one died, the other must begin to speak and live a normal life. I feel homesick for my ex, his kids, our dog, and the life I had. Reply. I was working on a construction contract on the coast. It will be interesting, to say the least, when Saturn and Pluto and the sun meet on January 12, 2020 at 22Cap45 (in my 4th house but on the cusp of my 5th at 23Cap19). Its a been a lot of hard work since finding astrology, I took myself back to school of self teaching. My Saturn return was more.. Scorpio. Now I am aged 69 with grandchildren. I think I experienced it more in relation to Saturn's square to my Asc and opposition to MC: health and work/expectations. This even applies even to the simplest of things like making an important phone call or paying a bill. Beautiful_Light Moderator . Pluto and Saturn SCARE ME. The link/sextile to my North Node and the trine to South Node-Jupiter conjunction highlighted the significance of my IC. Im hoping the Universe will deliver an in-your-face answer. I can see the Saturn energy of authority, patience, restriction & the elderly connecting with the Neptune water, chemicals & secrecy energy and the Venus energy of finances & fair agreements in play here. Fate and your early environment play their part, especially the influence of your dominant parent. But, I have a feeling if I resolve the issue surrounding household renovation to meet my needs Ill be able to successfully address the osteoporosis!Mainly I want a bigger dining area so I can entertain friends I am a Libra after all and having a better place to accommodate friends will help me express my Sun in Libra and relieve some Saturn transiting the 4th sense of isolation. Venus is square Jupiter natally, and this one trines Mars. Saturn in my 4th house had a lot of ups and downs. Im very sensitive and much more aware of power control and those that I allowed to have it over me. 3 tough years ahead!! I mean, Pluto transiting 4th can really prevent to sell a home?? My family and I moved into a new house when Tr Saturn was conjunct my IC. It was a rectangular house, you had to go through each room to get to the next, no hallway (no bypassing!). Gid, don,t think I can survive that. It all feels very life or death to me. Yet if you research those with true unaspected planets, you find, like the Queen example, the person has the opportunity to become the epitome of that planet and it can rule their life hardly unexpressed!! On the one side my IC completes the kite for my Grand Water Trine which includes Neptune in Scorpio, North Node in Pisces and MC in Cancer, on the other side Jupiter-South Node conjunction closes the Kite in Virgo. I could get not much understanding/sympathy for what I was going through either. In my case, I feel it was an inward change. Im currently laying low for a bit (the duration of the transit?) Probably will have to invest, and be somewhat insecure about my future. Stressful times but we made it through. The treasure is that spark of individual destiny, the inner glow that provides ones unique essence, and the heroic experience is the retrieval of that essence.. Yes saturn on her MC the duty , the responsibility, wow. It has been one of the most difficult periods in my life. I drove off, running away. Celine Dion 006, Bernadette Peters 008, Emily Dickson 009, Cecilia Bartoli 012, Gene Wilder 014, Uri Geller 015, Jennifer Gibbons 038, Athol Rusden 039, Madeleine of Scotland 058, John Hurt 102, Elizabeth II 107, Paddy Ashdown 130, Lord Byron 131, Mary MacArthur 146, Oliver Stone 151, Karen Silkwood 154, June Gibbons 156, Rudy Giuliani 236, Jeane Dixon 239, John Frawley 249. Evolution is a hard and long journey psychos and socios know that thats why they resist it while expecting to reap the benefits. This eclipse squared Uranus, the Great Awakener. There are typos in Elsas article on the 4th. Why religion is mixed into the seaminess I experience I do not know unless it is just the popular go to excuse. Theyre stressed. Greetings to all and best wishes for 2023. My family had moved cities 5 months before. It was the beginning of a new phase of our family and, fortunately, light as my 4H is 27* Taurus with lots of Gemini and a Gemini Mars. I have just started dating a person who I think may be able to love me (meaning I may be able to feel lovable), yet she lives in another city 2.5 hours away. I realized I was not as good a writer as I'd preferred to think and started working harder on developing my ability, increasing consistency and discipline towards that. She was protected by religion just like the sibling who was protected by the coverup (yeah and the covered sibling hides her actions behind the church too). Now, I no longer hope to find love because I have it. Im going solo and will find employees. In June 2012 VenusRx occulted the sun in Gemini 2degrees from my natal sun, in 2019 Mercury occulted the sun in Scorpio and my rising degree was in the Rx zone. Idk what it means but all I've been feeling is torment. Good things to come? Hit me like a ton of bricks. In the first house, Saturn conjunct Pluto gives an authentic, no-nonsense, "cut-to-the-chase" general attitude, a stance and demand for "the truth and nothing but the truth". It was a bittersweet time, from which I have never totally recovered, and I felt my eldest was fine, spending a lot of his time socializing and studying and being independent. You can see, in both cases, it takes a lot out of a person. It can be the start of something new, some new work of sorts. Anne Whittaker has written about the transits of the outer planets to the IC in a moving way. Thanks for sharing the quote: It is at the base point of the horoscope, this dark place, that the treasure is guarded by the dragon. wow. This interpretation of Saturn in aspect to the Midheaven embraces a loose brainstorm-style of writing to explore astrological themes. Just FYI in case she has a minute to fix them. When Pluto transited my N Moon in conjunction (Scorpio Moon), I was young but I had MAJOR changes in my domestic life. Saturn symbolises the structures in our lives such as career, stability, family and the 'old ways'. I lived in the dorms my first year of college. Its been HELL. transit saturn conjunct IC. She just told me today that her landlord is selling the home she and her husband have been renting for 4 years. Jan 28, 2021 #1 Hello! This configuration coupled with the Saturn square forced me to adopt the cold detachment of Aquarius while remaining aloof refusing to connect or reconnect with psychos and socios i should have no contact with or get attached to, and do this without fear of anything, because planets are on my side. It also says a lot of things when the aspects are not there. Just had Saturn transit 4th, pluto conjunct my natal moon last month and now Pluto is squaring my sun, a few years ago the Taurus opposing my sun, Venus, Mars was rough! Interesting but makes me wonder where her Saturn lies. Im in the investigative stage right now about what to do about the osteoporosis. I bought a home amd closed on the day the conjuction was exact. Three malefics at once in a sensitive point like Nadirguess will be horrible. Pluto square my sun, Venus and mars has been a test of freedom for me. I know, its horrible, the older one gets, the clearer one sees. The last time Saturn transited my 4th I was forced to move back with my parents due to a strange, difficult to diagnose illness. Venus conjunct the Asc, IC, DC, or MC, signifies a powerful urge to express this planet in life. Comparing oneself with others is bad, yes, I know. Im having some problems now (renting is expensive where I live, cant afford to buy, my father is unhealthy. In my case it seems that the physical moves and the angst around moving homes/locations preceded the conjunction. It was resolved once Saturn moved into the 5th. IC in Capricorn sign of structure, lofty goals and achievement ruled by Saturn. I would say the feelingis normal but its not necessarily typical. One friend with transiting Mars-Saturn squaring her natal Pluto wrote, "I'm feeling confronted with this left, right and center." You can hear Mars in the word "confronted" and the overwhelm feeling that can be . These Pluto conjunctions will take place over a five or six year period. Contact with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are felt over longer periods. I had started laying what I thought was a foundation when the first Saturn-Uranus square threw me a boomerang, debunked that, redirected my focus and energies. Sorry for delay reply helen, i didnt receive notification..i imagine your mercury 3rd house with gemini ac is a wonderful combo! First Saturn transit to IC was at 10 years old. Also, the progressed chart moon would be conjunting my progressed IC. Sun in 10th Moon in 4th. And then I decided what will be will be and stopped trying to control it. 01.06.19 As I write, Saturn is crossing my IC (Capricorn 1205)! Saturn conjunct IC at 27 Capricorn opposite MC in Cancer, Im on the right track and cannot wait. In Mythology, Venus represents the Goddess of Love, named Aphrodite. Sorry, for some reason Prog Moon and Tr Saturn going through the same house usually seems like the same to me (as in whatever house Tr Saturn or Prog Moon are in that's your main focus for that period of life). Chiron was transiting my MC/10H (same area where pluto has been transiting since 2017 till now!) Is she Out? After they were transferred from Broadmoor to a clinic, Jennifer could not be roused. In my chart Saturn (1851 Aries 10th house) is conjunct Midheaven (1823 Aries). Saturns cruising through my 10th house now. I moved abroad, moved together with a lovely and kind man, he had a lovely family. ), Im expecting all of that to explode soon. Tr. However, the meaning will be the same. Last year the South Node transited my IC, those eclipses were on me IC-MC wise. It feels as if I went through hell with hope to get to something better on the other side, but ended up up in the same place where it all started. Saturn has also brought a lot of fight with authorities so I guess Pluto wont be that different. Posts: 858 Plowed through my IC and totally destroyed the foundation of my life. Jen, Pluto transiting Moon in conjunction is tough. Release in many respect, has brought more moments of happiness and fulfilment in my life. COVID-19 showed me my North Node, I dont know how the IC comes into play, am keeping an open mind and listening to the energies. Also, he receives loose opposition from Mars (023 Libra 3rd house). Start things youd like to see pay off during the Saturn cycle, perhaps? I wondered as a child why everyone hides their emotional selves. I recommend you examine Saturn sun people Look at celebrities with it Read about it I have Saturn square the sun with moon scorpio and Saturn conjunct the moon. Right now a fresh writing is on the wall and it reads: Im on the right Saturnian track. By ASTROFIX ASC DESC MC IC A nchored at the core. Saturn represents discipline, pessimism, restriction, and depression, and in transit, infuses your natal houses and planets with this energy. These phrases relate to the life I live, I am living too small a life, and with a ceiling (of accomplishment) too low. The Queen of the UK is important with this aspect as i recall, if my memory serves, she has an unaspected saturn conjunct her MC!! While I was my father's favorite red head youngest of seven , he worked 2 jobs and died when I was 19 So I did not have an understanding of male energy at all. I guess, Im no longer that bothered about transits.. She was taken to the hospital where she died soon after of an acute heart condition. Anyways. Last time28 or so years agoI closed escrow on my current house. That's positive!" , , Real Life Saturn transit 12th, Saturn transit 1st, saturn transit ascendant permalink I work here. You will have some important duties and responsibilities to attend to which may involve one of your parents. About 18 months ago I had transit Saturn conjunct my Midheaven (opposite IC): on the day that the aspect was exact, I lost my job due to covid. Whatever ends needs to go! It crossed over my asc last month. Universities should be penalised for producing the worst kind of psychos and socios who think others are on this planet to evolve on their behalf, these are 1D level of consciouness university graduate psychos and socios with delusions of grandeur who will not evolve in this lifetime because the souls are in a contract with evil, only God can terminate that. Your email address will not be published. Correction: On the other side that eclipse happened so close to my natal MC at 27 of Cancer with the transiting North Node at 26. They are good examples of why not to use traditional or horoscopic astrology rules. With Saturn conjunct Ascendant, you may feel that the Universe holds you back in life. April 10, 2018 at 9:38 pm. Like this online, thank you. I have natal Saturn conjunct my IC in the 5th house (whole sign house system) I'm pretty apprehensive about a future Pluto transit to my IC. As Transiting Pluto conjuncts my Venus I am experiencing many changes in my life due to my marriage. Saturn is now going through my own 4th house. Web design & Development: ThinkWeb ThinkWeb Saturn transits the 1st house: I felt the beginnings of the transit in spring of 2017 with some poignant dreams. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I hope the Pluto square Moon -transit brings equally great changes which I am hopefully better equipped to use to the full. I was not open to that happiness, though. When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. 8th house death and rebirth is not easy. Im dealing with both Pluto and Saturn, a complete drama. Also very recently, a coming to light of the prospect of a government compulsory land aquisition of between 5ooo & 10 000 hectares of my & surrounding rural suburbs. I'm in the last 4 months of my prog Moon in the 4th which I have gone back into complete hermit mode/just focusing on healing (which I have heard that when the prog Moon or a transit planet are months/degrees from leaving a house there is an extra does of that house energy so that whatever needed to be learned/completed get pushed forward). Because you have such vague notions streaming through your mind, it will likely take you some time to create or locate the proper venues to shape and bring them to life. Thanks, Hi Anne: Saturn Opposite Midheaven Natal and Transit, Saturn Conjunct Midheaven Natal and Transit, New Moon February 20, 2023 New Beginnings, Saturn Opposite Midheaven Natal and Transit. I dont know, I sincerely feel that Saturn has to do with karma. Tell us when and whats happening. What happened when Saturn transited your nadir or 4th house? Im scared anyway. Thread starter Daisy; Start date Jan 28, 2021; Daisy Member. Talk about crisis at home and feeling lonely! Heavy is the head that wears the crown, of any sort. I have no idea if I manage yo change something during these 3 months of the transit that are left, but what is really sad that I dont feel I can and want to change the current situation. My mother passed as Saturn entered my 4th house. Pluto has transited my N 4th H, and on its way out to Aquarius, will soon square my N Moon. In the Midheaven especially Things. I was lonely. The native shone in his early home. I also had the NN return at that time, in my Taurus 1H! Then I inherited from her. Would love to hear more about your experience of the unaspected moon ruling a crucial element of the chart (your sun & my MC). I do have Neptune three degrees ahead of Saturn so perhaps Neptune has led the way. Also, is Mars the ruler of Uranus Transit the IC because its in Aries? I was chastised by my dad for not making more money to afford the dinner. The transit frequently coincides with an empty nest. I have 4business ideas that Ive developed into business concepts and plans, all will be implemented in the next 2years? Saturn conjunct my IC was in my 3rd housethat was a pretty good time, in retrospect. First of all, if planets conjunct the IC at a close orb (1-3), the effect will be much stronger than if they are simply in the fourth house. That is the only way if we are talking about real astrology. I took this as a sign that I was ready to proceed, 2020 has been the year of laying the foundation. Karmic indeed. This was a town that no one in the area knew existed. I left home my beloved community by the beach, to get a new house in a more affordable neighborhood in the dry and dusty suburbs that would accommodate my younger sons needs. Id like to do it sooner, but for financial reasons I need to wait till 2020 or so. My moon is conjunct asc. They may feel a lack of nurturing or just plain lonely. Out of the blue I received a phone call that my uncle had died. Its a lifetime process. Transit Saturn Conjunct Saturn The transit of Saturn conjunct your natal Saturn is the most important period of life since it always happens around the age of 29, when you begin to be older and totally responsible for your destiny. ------------------The Declinations GuyExpert birth chart rectificationRising Sign Descriptions , Posts: 1159From: the world is my home! Pholus Conjunct the IC The IC is one's childhood home. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. There was a lot of waiting, uncertainty, and frustration and paperwork. I was already an experienced therapist and had just finished oral exams in Process Oriented Psychology in USA. Diana. You're finding out is that you're human. Discovering astrology helped me understand why my emotional landscape, experience and expression was much more powerful than i have witnessed in anyone else ive ever met. Would that be a pisces mercury unaspected? Saturn conjunct the Descendant to Saturn conjunct the MC This starts a period where you become more outgoing and are usually eager to offer your skills to the world. How apropo for my natal Pluto square Saturn setup. Now I understand myself through astrology definitely better. If you're not a leader, then you likely want to be recognized as one. I have not finished all the aspects and transits yet. I know its in Taurus from the Saturn returns. They both have many tight aspects to other planets in my chart. In 2021 Im taking the first practical step towards rebuilding my life and this time the structure will be as solid as a rock. Saturn Transit Conjunct The Ascendant January 7, 2019 Elsa "You're being unnecessarily hard on yourself. You create a foundation for your life and once youre on the bottom, you can only go up! Ah, moon opposite saturn hard to look on the positive side. As they say, what you dont know cannot kill you, these transits and eclipses didnt kill me because I didnt know the meaning, I was new in astrology and had no clue. that was overflowing. The structure was built on a lie. He will be crossing for the first time end of January 2019. Thanks again for sharing our thoughts and experience. Depending on other aspects to your Midheaven and any fixed star conjunctions, Saturn conjunct Midheaven can manifest as great achievement and success in your career or loss and disappointment. Saturn Conjunct Midheaven Transit. Required fields are marked *. by Tony Howard Mars buddied up with Saturn in Capricorn at the end of March, and almost instantly I started hearing from friends whose charts are triggered by this aspect. Saturn conjunct Chiron natal aspects are connected with low self-esteem and an inner expectation to accomplish a lot. So Uranus joined that. That sounds positive. The South Node in the Natal Chart Natal conjunctions by two consecutive full moons one an eclipse cannot count for nothing. Im Aries moon with Mars in the 1st house cusp in fire Sag. I cant even think what will happen when transit Mars conjunct those. I discovered a lot. Topic: Transit Saturn conjunct IC: NinaAria Knowflake . Hardness in the way you interact with the outer world. Its also a positive, though, isnt it? What more will there be? Oh yeah! I could not go back, and I couldnt find a satisfying solution. During the average human lifetime, it occurs two-three times. I hope I can get everything fixed and sold SOON. But, right now tr. How do you find your mercury affecting you? Its like the planet is free to wander about the wheel, and the native is free to express the entire SCOPE of the planet due to its lack of binding aspects to other planets. Right, a blessing in disguise? Dr. Jordan Peterson- a clinical psychologist, from Canada, who has been the voice of free speech and non-conformity in his public life, who just recently had to enter into rehab due to his use of anxiety medicine, due to his wife on the verge of death. What Happens When Uranus in Taurus Transits Your 4th House? Last year, 2017, transiting Saturn conjuncted natal Neptune on the descendant and squared natal Saturn; I started working as an administrative assistant at an environmental facility of the government. Best everyone! Due to chronic illness I have been forced to spend far more time at home than I am comfortable with in the last few years (since transting Pluto entered the 4th in 2010/11. i have natal Saturn in Aquarius conjunct IC in a tight 1 degree orb. Now Im too tired and old to get the most out of it. I just did not get it. In the conjunction, planets match one . Loui, Pluto is conjoining my Nadir right now, and Saturn is conjoining my moon in the 3rd. Eeeemreally terrified expecting this transitit will hit my Ic in 2020, adding Pluto conjunct Saturn to the equation. And, your comment illustrated how,if youre ready to listen to what the Universe is saying, you can see Saturns gifts. I have Saturn transiting my IC in Aqua now. Fearful thoughts create fearful expectations. The castrating Uranus opposite my Ascendant in Scorpio has torn down to the core of the Scorpio magnetism that has in the past seen me feel attached to people i should not get attached to, people i have no relationship with including those ive just met especially people who need major intervention in their lives which some dont see. However, your relationships with superiors and the authorities should be mutually respectful because you share something in common. There already have been painful moments, but I sense I am ready to release all the old me, with compassion. does that mmean that there will be more sense of resposibility? While the call from the hospital was unexpected, her passing was not a surprise to someone who has a lot of astrological backgroundcoupled with the fact that she was 94. Oh I hope not. Im debating on how much money to spend on updating and decorating before I put it on the market. Consecutive full moons one an eclipse can not count for nothing as one laying. 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